Friday, May 21, 2010

Difference between sorrel and chestnut?

do YOU think there is a difference if so y and if not y\





i dont they seem like the same exact thing to me

Difference between sorrel and chestnut?
i dont think there is really a difference. they all have red in there coats.
Reply:Some breed associations don't recognize sorrel as a color, so everything is registered as chestnut. The stock horse breeds like quarter horses, paints, appys, etc recognize sorrel as a different color than chestnut.





Sorrel is usually a lighter, more orange shade, and the mane and tail are usually the same color, or lighter (like with flaxen in it).





Chestnut is usually a darker, more red shade and the mane and tail will typically be the same color, or slightly darker (although you can get a chestnut with flaxen mane/tail, but its not as common).





So you see a horse the color of a new penny....sorrel.....if you see a more burnt reddish brown, call it chestnut.





Good luck!
Reply:According to the Jockey Club (Thoroughbred Registery) there is ONLY chestnut. However, AQHA and APHA define Sorrel as a RED horse with the same shade of legs (Unless they have white) as the body colour and it can have a blonde mane and tail. Chestnut is much less RED in the coat. Think Hershey's milk chocolate colour.





Hope this helps.
Reply:Everyone has different opinions in this.





Generally, when both "chestnut" and "sorrel" are used, "chestnut" is restricted to darker reds and "sorrel" to light, clear reds. Any chestnut or sorrel can have a mane and tail that are dark (tostado), medium (alazan), or flaxen (ruano). However, flaxen manes and tails are more common in horses with lighter colored bodies. Typical color definitions are given below. (From _Horse Color_ and _The Horse_)








Liver chestnut -- the darkest of the red shades, a distinctive murky red/black. Very dark shades can look almost black.





Chestnut -- deep red coat. Variations include "dark chestnut" and "red chestnut". Sometimes called "cherry sorrel". If the horse has lighter colored legs than the body, this color may confusingly be called "chestnut sorrel".





Sorrel -- clear orange coat, often with lighter colored legs. Often called "light chestnut" in those breeds that don't use the word "sorrel". Difficult to distinguish from a true light chestnut, but is more yellowish, showing little or no red. Mane and tail are often the same as the body, or can be flaxen. May appear similar to dark palomino.





Light sorrel -- a strawberry blonde color, also called "orange".





Blond sorrel -- light sandy red with pale areas around the eyes, muzzle, and flanks, and with pale legs. Common in American Belgians. (This is genetically caused by the action of the P pangare gene on a flaxen-maned chestnut, ee ff.)


Dun horses can have similar body and point colors as chestnuts and sorrels (especially red duns), but duns typically have dorsal stripes. Horses lighter than blond sorrel can be yellow or claybank duns (including palomino), perlinos and cremellos, and finally whites and aged greys.
Reply:Here is a:


Chestnut:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestnut_(c...


Sorrel:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel_%28h...


They are the same it seems on here. I hope I helped. ummm...I agree with the second person. Sorrel is for western and chestnut is for english riding.
Reply:CHESTNUT: SLIGHTY LIGHTER THEN SORREL, WITH A LIGHT BROWN(GOLDENY) MANE, TAIL AND FOOT HAIR.


http://eventersforsale.com/chestnut%20ho...





SORREL: DARKER SHADE OF CHESTNUT WITH RELITVLY DARK TAIL, FOOT HAIR AND MANE.


http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/LEGGS_m....





THAT'S THE PUREBREEDS BUT MOST OF THEM NOWADAYS ARE ALL DIFFERENT SHADES AND COLOURS LIKE THIS ONE...


http://www.thisisct.net/images/animals29...


IT HAS DARK BROWN HAIR AND A CHESTNUT BODY!
Reply:I have always been taught that a chestnut has a light mane and tail and a sorrel has a dark mane and tail. The sorrel is also generally darker.





Chestnut:


http://www.pencilwork.co.uk/oil-05.gif





Sorrel:


http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/ROCKY_m....





That is just how we defined it where I grew up.
Reply:It will depend largely on whether your horse is Jockey Club registered or AQHA registered.





If it's a TB, it's chestnut. If QH, it's sorrel.





I've always called the richly colored ones 'chestnut' and the light washed out ones 'sorrel'
Reply:In the Arabian world, they are all chestnuts. I had two Quarterhorses. One was chocolate brown and registered chestnut. The other was copper penny and was registered sorrel. So to me, a brown color is chestnut and a red color is sorrel.
Reply:Potato...Potahto...





My horse is registered as a sorrel with AQHA and NFQHA...





http://i32.tinypic.com/250p192.jpg





She is obviously a darker red with darker mane and tail. I'm happy with the word 'sorrel.' It's what the AQHA designated her when I sent in her pictures...
Reply:I always considered sorrel to have more of a reddish tint and the chestnut to have more of a brown tint, but they were both close in color...


I see a lot of people use the terms interchangeably though.
Reply:I thought that chestnut and sorrel were the same thing, with chestnut being the English word and sorrel being the Western word. Some of the real color experts might quibble that there is a difference.
Reply:If the mane and tail are orangy looking, it is a sorrell. With a chestnut, there is no hint of orange.
Reply:Chestnut is brown / red with a dark mane and tail, sorrel is more orange with a light mane and tail.
Reply:I'm English - as far as I know sorrel is American for chestnut.





( sorry if I'm wrong here guys !)














Edit - one day you will get that thumb stuck- asshat
Reply:there is no difference, both are the same color, but western people call it sorrel, and english people call it chestnut!
Reply:Same thing ...western people call them Sorrel , English folks call them Chestnut....Same color!
Reply:i believe the sorrel is lighter more like a polomino


the chestnut is darker?
Reply:All I know is that they are both shades of brown!!!
Reply:my 2 year old horse is a sorrel and has a light mane

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