Saturday, November 14, 2009

What do you think a Black and Liver Chestnut will make?

I bred my mare, she is due anyday.


I bred her to a Liver Chestnut. She is a black.





What color do you think the foal will be?


Im guessing a bay?

What do you think a Black and Liver Chestnut will make?
Unless the liver chestnut has a hidden agouti the only options are chestnut or black. If the chestnut has a hidden agouti gene (it can not be seen in a chestnut) then their is also the possibility of a bay. Those are your only three options provided the black is a true black and not a smoky black. Some people do not know the difference and will register them incorrectly. I just saw a dark liver chestnut Saturday that was registered as a smokey black. A smokey black also throws in the possibility of a palomino or smokey black as well. A smokey black is a black base coat with one cream dilution gene. They generally start out black or almost black and then fade REALLY badly until by the end of summer they look like a buckskin.





I had a couple of the smokey blacks. Both registered incorrectly. The first I only knew what it was becaused I traced the fathers color. I suspect they had him registered wrong too. He was registered as a perlino but he threw offspring more like a smokey cream. All his foals were smokey blacks or palominoes. Typical of smokey creams No buckskins unlessed crossed with a bay or something with the agouti.
Reply:Could be anything. I bred my dark bay mare to a black stallion twice and ended up with a vibrant chestnut and a dark chestnut.
Reply:It really depends on which parent has the dominant gene.


You could end up with either a black horse, a chestnut or maybe something of the coloration of a pinto.
Reply:congrats on the foal





generally it depends on the dominant gene.


its not always a mix of the two colours


it will proberly be bay or chestnut.





however there are exceptons to everything. i knkow of a mare that was grey and the father was white and the foal turned out chestnut. sometimes you just can't guess.
Reply:I'd say bay or dark brown.
Reply:33.34% Black


33.34% Bay


33.33% Chestnut
Reply:i think your foal will be black when its born and it will probably turn into a dark bay, which will be practically black anyway lol. who knows, usually the colouring will change as the foal matures. If your foal is light when its born, have a look at its under coat and the colour there will give you an indication of how it will turn out.
Reply:Well congrats on the baby!





I bet it will be chestnut.





Keep us posted!





I am excited to see what it is! Email me once she has it! madiandcliff@yahoo.com
Reply:I would think the foal will be black to start with, and may mature to have more red in the coat, closer to a liver chestnut. Hard to say, There are so many possibilities!





My gelding has slight colourations that are close to his grandparents, even though most of his breeding history was bay on brown crosses. His coat is bay, with white flecks like a grey (his grandfather on the fathers side) and sunbleached mane and tail like a chestnut (from his grandfather on his mothers side). Rather odd for a thoroughbred, but there ya go!





Good luck :)

Tooth Fairy

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